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From the Liberation Times article: https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/us-governments-ufo-office-confir…


"*According to Butner, the fourth video shows the saucer object travelling along the bank of the James River, close to Fort Eustis.*

While none of the videos provided by Butner to Liberation Times clearly depict the shapes of the objects he describes, Butner explained that he could distinctly see their shapes in person. However, he noted that they appeared fuzzy when viewed through a camera."