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To date, no one has ever associated Lt. Col Donald L. Springer with the collection of the William A. Rhodes photograph negatives.

When I say collected, I mean he planned the operation, as shown in images in my post. It is known that his field agent, Fugate was the one who went to the witness and collected the negatives on behalf of AAF intelligence, for Hamilton Field, but no one talks about Donald L. Springer!

He is the guy who signed off on the first ever interview of Kenneth Arnold, and his two field agents who conducted the interview are the same guys who later went to Maury Island to investigate, and died in the B 25 crash.

You can read my previous post about how Springer wrote a report that included PHOTOS of recovered material from the incident which hadn't been analyzed and categorized as an unknown substance at the time of writing the report, but weirdly there is no documentation of what happened to these "metamaterials" after this report.

Link to the file that shows Springer planning the operation:

https://www.war.gov/medialink/ufo/release\_1/65\_hs1-834228961\_62-hq…

Edgar J. Hoover tried to intervene and prevent the AAF from getting the photo negatives, he was unsuccessful, his Phoenix agent says his urgent memo arrived too late!

There was also an inter agency war between FBI and AAF shortly after these photo negatives were collected, again Springer leaked documents to FBI telling them the AAF didn't need their help with important UFO cases. Is this because Hoover tried to stop them from getting these photos? At least partially it could be, imo.

Why did Springer want these photos?

Kenneth Arnold says in "Coming of the Saucers" as well as in another FBI interview that in Maury island Case, the two officers sketched him the Phoenix photos and he said they matched the craft he had seen. The two officers also said that the Maury Island craft sounded similar to the Phoenix photos which they thought were legitimate. This info probably never made it back to Springer, however he seemed to have seen the connection between all 3 cases, or else he wouldn't have thought it necessary to obtain these photographs.

Donald L. Springer is all over the War dot gov Persue UFO files, but I cannot find ANY biographical info about him, or any mention of what happened to him after 1948.

I would appreciate any help in finding more info on him

Photos in my post; first two are from the 1948 Project Sign report, from the newest UFO files release (persue release 4) and are newly seen versions of the Rhodes photos, but photo 3 I posted is the Wright Patterson analysis. They thought the photos were authentic but confirmed they didn't have the negatives to work with, just a cut out and enlargements. They were speculating about the size of the film, they didn't have it.

Photos 4 and 5 are about Springer planning the operation to Collect the photos with his trusted FBI ally in San Francisco office, agent Kimball.

Photo 6, urgent memo from Hoover trying to prevent AAF from getting the photos and agent Fugate from attending interview of the witness.

Photo 7, this is before the report about the first Kenneth Arnold interview, which you can see Springer wrote as well. Why don't people know springer was involved in the Arnold investigation, or talk about it more?

Photo 8, an FBI interview w Arnold where he confirms officers Brown and Davidson, who died in the B 25 crash, told him about the Phoenix photos in Tacoma during the Maury Island case.

Also, a general clarification about Maury Island: the official FBI files reference how the "hoax" confession was a false confession, Crisman and Dahl said they were getting too much trouble and we're going to give a false statement to avoid more trouble in their lives. Agent Wilcox makes note of this specifically. The material debris was never positively confirmed as slag, the only surviving debris was never analyzed according to Springer's report.

Personally I do not think Crisman was fed as is often theorized. He never got AEC clearance as people think (read page 2 of his AEC investigation lol, they said he withdrew his application for whatever position he had applied for). His involvement in JFK assassination stuff is entirely circumstantial imo, based on false accusations, and guilt by association, he was never charged for any crime. I believe he was framed as a result of threatening to release his own photos of Maury island and speaking out about the event directly prior to the JFK stuff, after being silent about it for decades.

Anyway, another thing of note, people often associate the Rhodes photos with Roswell, for good reason, they were taken earlier in the same day the crash happened. I believe it is possible these photos show the Roswell craft, and this is also the same craft Arnold Saw, and the same ones at Maury Island.

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