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Guest is Marik von Rennenkampff, former U.S. Department of Defense official and State Department analyst. We dive into the science behind Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) classification, examining why shape data varies between agencies and what those discrepancies might signal. Marik discusses the national security stakes, the rising influence of private industry in UAP research, and the need to shift the conversation beyond media sensationalism. We also tackle a key question: Why has mainstream media, with the exception of NewsNation, largely pulled back from UAP coverage—and what changed?