Bob Fish email on a Blue Book veteran
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| Date | 6 March 2015 |
|---|---|
| From / to | Bob Fish, former defense contractor / John Podesta |
| Subject line | "Leslie Kean book - Blue Book" |
| Published | By WikiLeaks, 2016 (Podesta emails) |
| Source of story | An unnamed senior Air Force NCO, an ELINT technician on RC-135 aircraft from MacDill AFB |
| Claim | Flights were diverted to track UFOs entering and leaving the ocean off Florida, after Blue Book's official end |
| Status | Secondhand, unverified; no films or records released |
| Topics | Government programs (topic) |
| People | John Podesta, Bob Fish |
| Testimony | Shellenberger testimony, p. 181 |
| Year | 2015 in UFO history |
| Timeline | 2015 on the UAP Timeline |
| Sources | 7 |
On 6 March 2015 Bob Fish, a former defense contractor, sent a second email to John Podesta, the Washington insider and longtime advocate of UFO disclosure. WikiLeaks published it in 2016 among Podesta's hacked emails.[1][6] Fish recounted a lunch with a senior Air Force non-commissioned officer (NCO). The NCO said he had worked for Project Blue Book in the 1970s, after its official closure, tracking UFOs that entered and left the ocean off Florida.[1][6] The story is secondhand, from an unnamed source recalled decades later, and nothing in it has been confirmed.[1][2]
Background
Podesta, President Clinton's chief of staff and later counselor to President Obama, had long said the government had not answered citizens' questions about UFOs well. He has said he asked Clinton for information about Area 51 while in the White House.[7] He wrote the foreword to Leslie Kean's 2011 book UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record, the book referred to in Fish's subject line. There he wrote that the American people "can handle the truth".[7] In 2016 he was chairman of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. Clinton promised on Jimmy Kimmel Live that, if elected, she would open government files on Area 51.[5][7]
When hackers broke into Podesta's private email account, the leaked messages turned out to include several UFO correspondents.[5][7]
- The Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell asked in 2014 and 2015 for conversations with Podesta and President Obama about "extraterrestrial disclosure".
- The musician Tom DeLonge, formerly of Blink-182, tried to set up meetings with people he described as "A-Level officials", including General William McCasland of the Air Force Research Laboratory.
DeLonge later complained that "Wikileaks really messed some important stuff up".[3] The Clinton campaign did not confirm the emails' authenticity, and the U.S. government blamed Russia for the hack.[7] BuzzFeed News also catalogued the UFO material in the leak.[4]
The email
Under the subject line "Leslie Kean book - Blue Book", Fish said he had been prompted by an online article linking leaked NSA documents to the claims of Dan Sherman about a secret program. Fish added that he did not know Sherman or whether that program was real.[1][6] To establish his credentials, he said he had worked with Fort Meade, the NSA's headquarters, on classified communications projects. One of these was President Reagan's 1986 dedication of the new NSA headquarters building.[1]
The NCO's story
Fish said he had met the NCO in a top-secret (TS/SCI) cafeteria in El Segundo, California. According to the email, the man had several experiences:[1][6]
- He was an electronic-intelligence (ELINT) technician flying in RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft from MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa. Their usual target was Cuban radar.
- Flights were sometimes diverted to track UFOs off Florida's east coast. The objects had a landing and take-off area in the ocean east of Miami and north of Bermuda.
- The objects gave off a specific electronic signature when entering or leaving the water, which made them trackable. The crew filmed them crossing between water and air several times.
- He also flew on secret missions aboard WC-135 weather and hurricane-hunting aircraft over the area, collecting intelligence that he reported afterwards to a dedicated Air Force intelligence officer.
Fish's conclusion
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Fish argued that if this was true, Blue Book had never really been disbanded. Only the outer layer of the onion, the "public information layer", had been stripped away in 1970.[1][6] He suggested the activity might be connected with "Sentry Eagle", which he described as a program for sharing UFO electronic intelligence between the Air Force and the NSA.[6] Project Blue Book officially ended on 17 December 1969.[2]
Assessment
The account is secondhand: Fish relays what an unnamed man told him at lunch, decades after the events described. No such films or records have been released, and the NCO has never been identified.[1][2] The Air Force's public position remains that Blue Book's 12,618 reports, of which 701 were left unexplained, showed no threat to national security and no evidence of extraterrestrial vehicles.[2] The email's main significance is as evidence of the kind of UFO material that reached a senior political figure in the years before the 2017 revelations about the Pentagon's AATIP program.[5][7]
People and topics
- John Podesta — Clinton campaign chairman with a long interest in UFO disclosure.
- Project Blue Book — The Air Force's public UFO investigation from 1952 until its closure in December 1969.
- Bob Fish — Former defense contractor who emailed John Podesta about UFO data.
- U.S. Air Force — The U.S. military service that ran the official UFO projects from 1947 to 1969.
- Unidentified flying object — An object in the sky that can't be identified; the older term for UAP.
On the Timeline
- Bob Fish email on DSP data (6 March 2015) — A former contractor tells John Podesta an Air Force satellite system collects hard UAP data.
- John Burroughs's medical records (13 March 2015) — Kit Green says Rendlesham witness John Burroughs' medical records were classified.
See every 2015 event on the UAP Timeline →
Further reading
- Project Blue Book — Wikipedia · en.wikipedia.org · archived copy
- Project Blue Book records — National Archives · archives.gov · archived copy
- Project Blue Book files — The Black Vault · theblackvault.com · archived copy
- John Podesta — Wikipedia · en.wikipedia.org · archived copy
References
- Bob Fish to John Podesta, "Leslie Kean book - Blue Book", 6 Mar 2015, WikiLeaks Podesta emails · wikileaks.org · archived copy
- Project Blue Book — Wikipedia · en.wikipedia.org · archived copy
- Tom DeLonge on the Podesta emails — Rolling Stone · rollingstone.com · archived copy
- Tom DeLonge emailed Clinton's adviser about aliens — BuzzFeed News · buzzfeednews.com · archived copy
- Roswell and ET among topics in leaked Podesta emails — CBS Los Angeles · cbsnews.com · archived copy
- Bob Fish follow-up email to John Podesta, 6 March 2015 (WikiLeaks) — UFO Scans · ufoscans.com · archived copy
- Clinton campaign chief John Podesta's interest in UFOs — NBC News · nbcnews.com · archived copy
Facts in this article are drawn in part from the Wikipedia article “Project Blue Book”, available under the CC BY-SA 4.0 licence.
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