John Ramirez finds no CIA program (2022)

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John Ramirez finds no CIA program (2022)
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Date30 January 2022
TopicsBeings & bodies (topic), Nuclear & missile sites (topic), Government programs (topic)
PeopleJohn Ramirez, John B. Alexander
TestimonyShellenberger testimony, p. 204
Year2022 in UFO history
Timeline2022 on the UAP Timeline
Sources9

John Ramirez, a retired CIA analyst, said in a January 2022 interview with George Knapp on Coast to Coast AM that in a 25-year career he never found a formal CIA program studying UAP, although he met many colleagues interested in the subject. In the same interview he described personal encounters with non-human beings.[1][2]

Career

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Ramirez served in the Navy as an electronic warfare technician before joining the CIA on 18 June 1984. Until 2009 he worked in the Directorate of Science and Technology, the Directorate of Intelligence and the National Counterproliferation Center, specialising in ballistic missile defence and radar signals analysis; he analysed a large Russian phased-array radar and served as chief of an overseas technical collection base and of an electronic intelligence analysis branch.[1][2]

No program

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Ramirez said there was "no CIA office door" marked UFOs and no formal internal briefings on the subject. He pointed to CIA historian Gerald Haines's 1997 study as showing that some part of the agency had always been interested, and said the life-sciences area, which also looked at remote viewing and the paranormal, was most interested. He said he attended UFO conferences as a private citizen after informing the agency.[1][3]

Other claims

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In the same interview Ramirez repeated reports that Soviet radars had detected unusual craft, discussed the 1977 Petrozavodsk case and the 1967 Malmstrom missile incident, and said he had seen "reptilian" and "mantis" beings. In later years he appeared on podcasts discussing predictions of an alien-related event in 2027. These claims are unverified.[1][2]

Significance

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His statement that he found no formal program is notable because it comes from an insider interested in the subject, similar to the view of Col. John Alexander about the 1980s.[1][4]

People and topics

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  • Central Intelligence Agency — The U.S. foreign intelligence agency, which has followed UFO reports since the 1940s.
  • Unidentified anomalous phenomena — The U.S. government's current term for unidentified objects in the air, in space and underwater.
  • John Ramirez — Former CIA officer who has spoken about UAP.
  • Non-human intelligence — A term for intelligent beings of non-human origin, used in UAP legislation.
  • John B. Alexander — Retired Army colonel who organized the 1985 Advanced Theoretical Physics group and wrote UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies and Realities.

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