ATP meeting notes release
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| Date | 26 September 2022 |
|---|---|
| Topics | Nuclear & missile sites (topic), Secrecy & cover-up (topic) |
| People | James Shannon, John B. Alexander |
| Testimony | Shellenberger testimony, p. 210 |
| Year | 2022 in UFO history |
| Timeline | 2022 on the UAP Timeline |
| Sources | 6 |
On 26 September 2022 researcher Grant Cameron publicly released handwritten notes by former Los Alamos scientist James "Oke" Shannon from the 1985 meetings of the Advanced Theoretical Physics (ATP) working group, a group of government and contractor figures organised by Col. John Alexander to study the UFO question. Cameron said the notes had been given to him by physicist Eric Davis.[1]
Background
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The ATP group met at the defence contractor BDM's secure facility in McLean, Virginia, in May 1985 and again later that year. Its participants reportedly came from the CIA, the National Security Agency, Army intelligence, Los Alamos and aerospace companies. Notes by engineer Jack Houck, another participant, had already circulated.[1][2]
Shannon's interview
The release followed an interview Shannon gave to Jay Anderson of Project Unity in 2022. Shannon said he knew both Davis and retired Vice Adm. Thomas Wilson, and that around May 1999 Wilson had phoned him and asked whether Davis — and possibly Hal Puthoff — could be trusted; Shannon said he vouched for Davis. Researchers saw this as supporting part of the account in the disputed 2002 Wilson–Davis notes, which describe Wilson's attempt to gain access to a secret UFO program.[1]
The notes
Researchers who analysed the notes say they come from several meetings, mostly in May 1985 and some in August 1985, including a list of attendees at an "ATP Ten" meeting on 7 August 1985. They noted that the Wilson–Davis notes refer to an "AP-10" group, and argued that the overlap suggests Wilson was recounting what Shannon had told him. The full notes were later reproduced in a 241-page compilation, Loose Threads.[1]
Reactions
Alexander has said the ATP group found no existing government UFO program. Asked about the Wilson–Davis notes in 2022, he said he had not been present and noted that Wilson said the meeting did not happen. Wilson has called the notes fiction.[1][3]
In the testimony
The testimony cites: A 150,000 gauss magnetic field is associated with operating UAP craft; Navy allegedly has information on an underwater UAP hotspot near Golfo San Matias offArgentina; The “Philadelphia experiment” was related to UAP (see April 1956); At least one other civilization is watching humanity.
People and topics
- Los Alamos National Laboratory — The New Mexico laboratory where the atomic bomb was designed.
- James Shannon — Former Los Alamos special projects manager.
- Advanced Theoretical Physics group — Advanced Theoretical Physics group
- John B. Alexander — Retired Army colonel who organized the 1985 Advanced Theoretical Physics group and wrote UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies and Realities.
- Department of Energy — The U.S. department that runs the nuclear weapons laboratories.
- Unidentified anomalous phenomena — The U.S. government's current term for unidentified objects in the air, in space and underwater.
- Central Intelligence Agency — The U.S. foreign intelligence agency, which has followed UFO reports since the 1940s.
- National Security Agency — The U.S. signals intelligence agency, which holds UFO-related intercepts.
- Wilson–Davis notes — Wilson–Davis notes
- Unidentified flying object — An object in the sky that can't be identified; the older term for UAP.
On the Timeline
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- Franc Milburn's directed-energy claim (7 October 2022) — A former UK officer claims directed-energy weapons were used against UAP scientists.
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References
- Daniel Elizondo and The Hermetic Penetrator, "Loose Threads" (PDF), Anomaly Archives · anomalyarchives.org · archived copy
- "ATP aka Secret Onion", Anomaly Archives · anomalyarchives.org · archived copy
- Billy Cox, "Core Secrets UFO memo: 'It's all fiction,' says former DIA director Thomas Wilson", UFO Chronicles (Jun 2020) · theufochronicles.com · archived copy
- Loose Threads: the ATP notes and the Wilson memo — Medium · omega-point.medium.com · archived copy
- files.afu.se · files.afu.se · archived copy
- nndb.com · nndb.com · archived copy
Further reading
- Los Alamos National Laboratory — Wikipedia · en.wikipedia.org · archived copy
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